Thank you very much for your reply

Very kind of you!

I’m afraid I’ve already made the mistake of being confrontational. My excuse is that I’m hardwired against this stuff – I grew up with parents who actually steered me away from this kind of stuff before I ever REALLY had to deal with it.

I’m going to see what I can do to salvage things.

Your parents were obviously trying to do the right thing with you

But steering you away from it doesn’t afford you the opportunity to learn about it and learn WHY you should steer away from it. And frankly, not many people know enough about it to really know why it’s a bad deal. They don’t know enough to know how people can get sucked into these things when “we should know better.”

Some things that are thought to be “common sense” aren’t. And the simplistic expression, “If it looks too good to be true, it probably is,” is entirely blind to the reality that people who put together scams (especially ones as elaborate as AmQuix) KNOW that if it looks too good to be true, people won’t fall for it. Their schemes are DESIGNED to look plausible – NOT too good to be true.myguaranteedpayday
Okay, so you’ve been confrontational. Here’s a possible approach:

First, you need to be somewhat humble. Be apologetic for confronting her about it. She’s hearing things that you are not, and some leeway for that void should be afforded.

Now, here’s a statement you can make that is TRUE but not exactly what it sounds like it is: “You obviously understand this business in a way that I don’t. Bad credit is OK for payday loans with guaranteed approval from web service + I’m going to need some time to look at it, perhaps with you, and learn more about it.” Do you see how that can be taken more than one way? This affords you the chance to look at web sites and forums so that you might learn more about it. And if you value this relationship enough to really get after it, you’ll need to learn BOTH sides of the MLM issue – the claims and the reality.

Being involved in MLM and learning the truth during/after quitting is the surest way to get that education. But it can be a very expensive way to go about it, both in terms of finances and in your relationships. Without being involved, you have to spend some time learning about it in order to effectively communicate with someone who’s involved in it.

Always keeping “I don’t understand” ready will be a huge help. It will give you time to research. It will also give you the opportunity to hear what she’s being taught. And if what she’s being taught doesn’t jive with reality, you can say, “I don’t understand” and have an opening for explaining why what she says doesn’t make sense.

Okay, I think I’ve given you enough to work with for now. Think a little about this before you get into conversation with her again, and remember that you can’t always “be right,” even if you are right about MLM. You have to decide if you want to be right or if you want to rescue this situation and this relationship. That’s why being confrontational doesn’t work. She knows she’s right, too.

Again, best of luck.

OK-I’ll bite

I’ve been in the business for 28 months. The first three months were a grace priod where I did not have to by any products other than my original startup kit. After that, I spent approximately $250 – three hundred dollars every quarter on products, which I either used or sold. My expenses also includes some training (4 conventions and nutritional training, $395 each, over the time period as well as a number of smaller trainings ranging from $15 to $50 each). The training figure below also include cost of travel, hotel and meals.

Assets & Expenses:
Product purchased 2,400*
Training 5,300
Support materials 1,500

Total Assets & Expesses 6,800

Earnings & Compensation
Compensation plan payout $2400**
Retail Earnings 2100***
Return on taxes (2014) 3800
Return on taxes (2015) 3100

Gross Earnings 11,400

Less Expenses 6,800
Net Earnings 4,600

* the retail value of the products purchased is $4320.
**This year (2016) I’m on track to earn $3600 for the year (that’s $300 dollars per month).
*** approximately 50% ($1200) of this income came from retail sale of products purchased and listed above under Assets. I sold roughly about 1/3 of what I purchased and retained the rest for my own use or later resale.

The figures do not include purchases resulting from me transfering my buying from brick and mortar stores to my own online store. For instance I get a much better deal on groceries from business partners on my online store (which we call a mall), than going directly to the same major, brand name grocery store in my neighborhood. And I get a three hundred dollar check when I rack up enough brownie points–which I would not have gotten from my local store. I also exclued the purchase of a new Gateway laptop computer, the purchase of flowers and gifts for birthdays and holidays and many other items I would have bought anyway, but which I purchased through my online store. In short, the figures include only the products I purchase with the intention of reselling them, which was done primarily as part of the business requirement for maintaining a distributorship relationship with the company. And by the way, all the products so purchased, is a business expense says it’s tax deductible–which is true even if I end up using the product.

There is something I am a little confused about

The numbers you gave do not make sense, unless I am being dense. If you have only made three hundred so far, but you have made 2500 hundred in the compensation plan and made another two thousand retailing product. How are you defining “made”. Is it straight sales generated or is it before expense margin, after expense profit? There are too many questions left unanswered. Hal is right when he said statements require proof but your statements are a bit confusing to me. Please clarify that for me if you don’t mind.